I understand that abortion IS about the women with the choice of what to do with her body.
That is just fine, But if we give the women the right to choose. Shouldn't men be given the same choice?
If a women wants a kid, she will get one, from a willing father or a non willing one.
In opinion, if a father doesn't want to be one, he should be given that right. And only give him that right the same way a women does.
Before the baby is born, and make that choice permanent.
That seems fair to me. Why should a man be responisble because a women tricked him?
If pro choice is about the right to choose, why the gender bias???
Equality sucks don't it?
Disclaimer: if the child is already born, that is too late, she can't kill a baby, neither can you abandon one.
Because pro choice people say it is just a fetus.
Well I am signing my rights away from a fetus, if that turns into a child, because a mother chooses to, that was her choice, he already made his choice before it was a child.
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Also personal view of this, I am pro life, BUT I am anti gender bias. If women have the right to choose, so should men.
Equality sucks
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I agree that if it is 'a woman's right to choose' whether or not to have a baby, then it should be a man's right to choose whether or not to be a father to that child. That seems only fair to me.
I agree - I am pro-choice and I also think that a man should be able to opt out of being a parent before the baby is born. unless the baby was born between two married people - at that point you have made a comittment to be a family. Also you cant change your mind later on. LIke if the kid is 3 years old you cant just abort the responsibility of being a parent if you previously agreed to be a parent. BTW accidents do happen even while using condoms and the pill. And there are a very small minority of crazy women out there who do try to trick thier boyfriends into marriage or whatever by skipping the birthcontrill pills and getting pregnant. I hate that some ppl imply that if you are pregnant and get an abortion that you must be some idiot who doesnt know how to use contraception, or some slut who cant keep her legs closed. Even with birthcontroll pills and condoms it is still possible to get pregnant but that doesnt mean you were being irresponsible - infact using two forms of contraception IS being responsible
In a perfect world with two responsible adults and unplanned pregnancy I completely agree with your point of view. I can't stomach manipulation, dishonesty and abuse of any kind. However, there are millions of exceptions, when partners are drunk, too young to understand what is going on, not interested in any kind of responsibility among many others. People also change their minds a lot, when one of them insists on abortion, but afterward wants spend time with the baby who was born against his "better" plans. Life is extremely complicated. Therefore, we should judge every situation very carefully with full knowledge of all the details. That is how I see equality. I am a feminist, pro-choice, wife and mother.
Why do you keep saying equality sucks? LOL You are right a guy should be able to choose.
Having a child should be planned by both parties concerned, accidents do happen and then both parties need to have a say on the matter. I think if stupid people don't want to have children they should be wearing condoms or on the pill.
But then again no-one said it was a crime to be an idiot; although I think they should be taxed!
You're absolutely right because after all the fetus is a more developed gamete from the guy (sperm), thus is his. I am personally also pro life because though I believe women should be able to do what they want with their body (though have a greater responsibility than men) the last time I checked a human fetus wasn't an organ. It is a developing human baby and shouldn't be treated the same as a tumor.
This is a VERY important issue and we're going to see men's rights groups fight it until they win.
When women do not wish to be parents, they have an opt out clause.
Men? Nope. Men get enslaved to finance the adult decisions of the female for 18 years.
It's amazing that this issue is only now gaining exposure/momentum.
What's more amazing it that women can kill a human life to opt out of parenthood, but men can't simply hold onto their own hard-earned money to opt out of parenthood.
People always say "Oh, but it's for the child" to have men pay.
Well, abortion isn't at all "for the child." ...In fact, it's pretty bad "for the child."
Whenever this issue comes up you see some people with opinions like: "the man shouldn't have had sex if he didn't want to be a father."
It should be noted that the same exact thing could be said about the women that can legally abort their children.
Women claim "my body, my choice" but it's funny that the "my responsibility" is absent from that phrase.
The man and his DNA don't matter when it's "her" body.
BUT... the man's DNA suddenly becomes important AFTER the baby is born.
Before the baby is born, it's all about the woman. "Her body, her choice." She can exterminate the man's DNA legally and people are OK with that.
After the baby is born the woman now has to face the consequences of A.) not protecting HER body and engaging in sex (let's face it... pregnancy only happens to women. They should take more responsibility for that fact) ...and B.) choosing motherhood for herself.
...But she doesn't have to face the consequences of her adult decision to be a mommy.
No, after the baby is born, the man is brought back into the equation to "share" the responsibility.
If women are allowed the right to opt out of parenthood, men should have the same right.
Men aren't going to put up with this forever.
what is always interesting is that women will say it's my body, so that' too bad for the guy, lifes not fair, but will whine and complain when they are branded as a slut for being promicuous where a guy is a stud. Equality sucks for them in this case, and they are not really willing to admit that the man does have a say. Even if that is carry the fetus to full term. They want their cake and to eat it too, but life don't work out like that. It does show the overall hypocrisy that they can have.
You're right. A man should have the choice of refusing to become a father just like a woman has the choice of refusing to become a mother.
Why do you say that the woman tricked the man? Have you not heard of birth control? Should both the man and woman consider contraception before having sex? Surely maturity and responsibility when having sexual relations with someone - whether they be casual or r/ship - should be foremost in a person's mind. If you feel that you can just right-off a child because you don't want it, doesn't make you a real man. Be responsible before the act of sex and then you won't be faced with life-changing decisions. Blaming women and equality is giving you the choice of NO responsibility for your actions.
You're leaving out one very important party to the transaction; the child. You and the woman can agree to leave you out of it, but the child has not agreed. So the woman and you would be making a decision for the child that the child will have no father. I don't think either one of you has the right to make that decision for the child. As for you being 'tricked.' You chose freely to have sex and you have no natural right to avoid the consequences of your actions. I think abortion is wrong, but even so women have them. That's just the way it is. Life is not always fair. The woman is the one who carries the baby so she is the one who can kill it. That doesn't give you the right to deprive the child of a father just so you can even up with the woman.