I understand that abortion IS about the women with the choice of what to do with her body.
That is just fine, But if we give the women the right to choose. Shouldn't men be given the same choice?
If a women wants a kid, she will get one, from a willing father or a non willing one.
In opinion, if a father doesn't want to be one, he should be given that right. And only give him that right the same way a women does.
Before the baby is born, and make that choice permanent.
That seems fair to me. Why should a man be responisble because a women tricked him?
If pro choice is about the right to choose, why the gender bias???
Equality sucks don't it?
Disclaimer: if the child is already born, that is too late, she can't kill a baby, neither can you abandon one.
Also, the famous, should of used a condom. Well she should of used birth control. Sh*t happens, sometimes the pill or the condom don't work. Why in these instances do only the mother get the right to say "NO" to parent hood?
Because pro choice people say it is just a fetus.
Well I am signing my rights away from a fetus, if that turns into a child, because a mother chooses to, that was her choice, he already made his choice before it was a child.
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Also personal view of this, I am pro life, BUT I am anti gender bias. If women have the right to choose, so should men.
Think about the children, this isn't about children, its about a fetus.
To sum it up, if a women has a right to say no to being a parent when only a fetus is involved, so should men.
A lot of women say well, since this happens in her body, it is her juridiction. I didn't tell you if you could have the baby or not. That is still up to the women. But it is men's choice if they want to be a parent or not.
Seems fair to me.
Update:Emily with that logic, then women shouldn't be sleeping with men.
That simple, but we give them that right, men deserve that right as well
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men should not be financially obligated to raise offspring that they didnt want for the reasons you mentioned
we have the ability to terminate responsibility..u should have that same ability
I agree with you totally. As long as abortion in legal, and the woman has a right to choose whether or not to be a mother, the man should have the right to choose whether or not to be a father as well.
I also think there needs to be a little clause added for the men who don't even know they are the father until after the child is born. (yes, that does happen! There are women out there who don't know who the father of their child is until a paternity test is done. Sometimes long after that child is born.) Men should have a certain amount of time from finding out they are a father to be able to "opt out."
I don't think it is fair that women are the only ones who have a choice and the man just has to finance and accept whatever choice is made by someone else. That clearly gives one gender rights that the other doesn't have. If women can make the choice on their own, they should have to be accountable for that choice on their own as well.
I would also like to point out that not every single mother is the victim of some man who knocked her up and left her. It isn't always someone else's fault, since we have control of our own bodies and who we allow inside of them!
I know this is not a popular viewpoint to have, and certain women will call me a traitor to my gender or some BS like that-- but I say if you blame a man for your own decisions, then expect him to support you because you are just a helpless single mother, well, then don't get mad when someone else calls you helpless!
PS This is not to say that there are no women who really were put in difficult situations by unscrupulous men, but that is a different discussion.
I agree - i'm professional-decision and that i additionally think of that a guy might desire to have the capability to choose out of being a discern till now the child is born. till the child replaced into born between 2 married human beings - at that ingredient you have made a comittment to be a relatives. additionally you cant substitute your recommendations in a protracted time. LIke if the newborn is 3 years old you cant in basic terms abort the duty of being a discern in case you earlier agreed to be a discern. BTW injuries do take place even whilst utilizing condoms and the pill. And there are an extremely small minority of loopy females obtainable who do attempt to trick thier boyfriends into marriage or despite by skill of skipping the birthcontrill tablets and getting pregnant. I hate that some ppl mean that in case you're pregnant and get an abortion it extremely is needed to be some fool who doesnt understand a thank you to apply birth control, or some slut who cant keep her legs closed. inspite of birthcontroll tablets and condoms it remains obtainable to get pregnant yet that doesnt advise you have been being irresponsible - infact utilizing 2 styles of birth control IS being in charge
Any single woman of means can employ the services of a sperm bank in order to have a baby on her own if she wishes. Any reasonably educated and intelligent woman is aware of this. I doubt many women would be willing to engage in a lifelong partnership of parenting with an unwilling man. Most of these situations arise from the negligence of both parties. The opportunity to "opt-out" should be taken prior to copulation occurring.
I wish you guys would make your minds up. Just yesterday (as there is most days) someone was against women having abortions, and for fathers who have somehow been denied the right to have a child.
I'm not talking about trickery - I don't know any woman who has tricked a man into fathering a child. I'm talking about plain old unwanted, unplanned pregnancies where something has gone wrong with the contraception.
I think it's best left up to the mother. And if you don't want to father children by that particular woman, maybe you shouldn't be sleeping with her.
That seems quite reasonable to me. Women cannot both demand 'the right to choose' and at the same time demand the right to make a man support a child he does not want.
it does suck but it only shows how different we are
men and women
we will never be fully equal because we are too different!
Lets say your post is true! no women can get an abortion unless the man signs off on it!
i would NEVER do this i'm pro life as well! but here me out!
lets say i'm prego and my man wants to keep and i dont!
he signs paper!
ooops i fell down some stairs and miscarried!
now what
he still had his choice but i still got what i wanted!
how is that fair! yes it's sad but truth is
no one can tell a women what to do with her body unless your going to tie her down and hold her hostage and that's not right either!
There is no win on this! as sad as it is!
there is nothing no group no doctor no law can ever change! it's a difference that is set in stone ... again NOTHING ANYONE CAN DO!
Yes, absolutely. Men and women should both have equal rights in denying to become a parent. BUT, men cannot have a major say about abortions, bcoz it isnt their body whcih is getting affected.
Thats a tough one. But yes, if the man wants to opt out, then he should be allowed to, because the woman can opt out and not have the baby if that is her wish.
If you've acted responsibly you should be entitled to choose whether or not to be a parent.
If you've acted irresponsibly, you should be held accountable for your actions.
Problem is, after the fact, everyone will SAY they acted responsibly, even if they did not.
I find it counterproductive to argue for equal rights when the biological reality of reproduction is so unequal. How about proportional rights? That seems more fair.