One of my friends and I are planning a trip to eastern Asia next year. We were thinking of going to Ho Chi Minh City and then traveling by train trough Vietnam and along eastern China making stops underway in Shanghai and possibly other smaller cities.
We know that it is possible to travel buy train to Hanoi, Shanghai and Beijing, but is this a good route if we want to make stops along the way and explore there areas we travel through? Also, is it possible to buy some sort of train-pass allowing us to ride along that route, but making stops along the way as we want?
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Ho Chi Minh City to Hanoi
Bus or train
Possible detours: Nha Trang, Hoi An, Danang, Hue
Hanoi to Nanning
The easiest but most expensive way to cross is the direct bus to Nanning from Kim Lien Hotel in Hanoi. There are also direct train services across the border.
The most popular route, though, goes like this. From Gia Lam station get on a bus to Dong Dang for around 60,000vnd +. (You can also take a train, but the train station is further from the border.) They should drop you near the border and you'll only have to walk 200-300m to the Vietnamese passport control. The standard procedure requires you to throw your passport above the heads of the hoards of travelers through the hole in the office window and wait until you notice an official wandering about with your passport. Good luck.
Once you're stamped you can walk the short distance into China and enter the marble tiled efficiency of Chinese immigration control. When they set you free you need to get to Pingxiang 15km away. Don't accept the first taxi tout but wander around through the huge stone gate, see the motobike taxis and get a bidding war started. A taxi should only cost around ¥30 and a motorbike no more than ¥20. From Pingxiang get the bus to Nanning. They are more regular than the trains and this will take about 2 1/2 hours. You will arrive at Lang Dong station.
Nanning to Guangzhou
From Nanning you need to travel over night to Guangzhou. If you are happy with a sleeper bus, Langdong station is the right place to be. Bear in mind the journey by bus will take 10 to 11 hours and cost about ¥230. If you want to catch a train, which may be cheaper depending on your level of endurance, get on the number 6 bus (¥2) to the train station (huoche zhan) which takes about 20 to 30 mins. This is the better option because even if you can't get a train you can buy a bus ticket at the Lang Dong station ticket office on Chaoyang lu near the Yin He hotel, which is a two minute walk from the train station. This way you can see some more of Nanning before catching the No 6 back to the bus station. (Allow 50 mins). When in Guangzhou get yourself to Guangzhou east station and use the new metro for about ¥5. Once there follow the signs for the Kowloon express and for ¥180 you'll be in Hong Kong in less than 1 1/2 hours. You will arrive at Hung Hom station and it's just one stop on the MTR to get to Tsim Sha Tsui east where you can find all the budget accommodation in one of the two "mansions" on Nathan Rd.
Guangzhou to Shanghai
If you want to skip Guangzhou/HK, direct train services are available from Nanning to Shanghai. Many would probably visit Guilin, which is a few hours from Nanning along the rail line towards Shanghai. Before Shanghai, the city Hangzhou is probably worth a visit.
Alternate route through Kunming
If you have the time and money, you could swing further west into China.
It is quite easy to take a train from Hanoi to Lao Cai at the border and cross the border to Hekou, Yunnan before taking a bus to Kunming, where direct train services are available to Shanghai. The rail service from Hekou to Kunming is currently under maintenance.
If you would like to visit Sichuan or Chongqing, direct trains are available from Kunming as well. There are direct trains to Shanghai from both Chengdu and Chongqing.
From Chongqing, it is possible to travel along the Yangtze river down to Shanghai. The attractions on the way include the famous Three Gorges.
Stay safe
Get out
Well first of all make sure you can get the Chinese visa on the train. These days you need a business visa or to get a tourist visa you need to have a return flight. Maybe if you just have a flight out of China it would be ok. Check the visa rules.
To get from Ho Chi Minh city to Beijing by train you do it this way.
HCMC to Hanoi, train to Nanning (which gives you access to the beautiful Guilin and Yangshou).
You can also train to Sa Pa then train from Kunming in China, which gives you access to the Beautiful Lijiang, Dali and Shangrila (Zhongdian). Then you take the train from there to Gulin.
From Guilin you take the highspeed train to Guangzhou (2 hours these days).
From Guangzhou you will find buying tickets for trains hard, but the Guangzhou/Beijing train is fast. You can also take the Guangzhou to Shanghai train, which last time I took this before was fairly slow, but still ok.
Shanghai to Beijing is 5 hours by high speed train (I did it on the slow train once, which was 24 hours with the train acting as a local commuter train for people going to work in Shanghai, so stopped everywhere).
Alternatively take a cruise from Ho Chi Minh City, then take the train from Hong Kong to Beijing.
Personally I love Chinese trains, and I used to prefer to slow packed ones where everyone become friends, but I would recommend flying as the way to get around China, as it is big, and if you are not stopping places then the train is not really worth it.
Personally I find the train a much more comfortable method of travel in Vietnam - plus you can enjoy some gorgeous coastal scenery along the way.
Unfortunately, the Vietnamese railway system is rather primitive and doesn't offer any kind of 'hop on/off' ticket. You'll instead just have to buy single tickets to each destination as you go along. But it's easy to do this and is relatively cheap. Most hotels in Vietnam can book the tickets for you and you only need to book a day or so in advance, so it's easy to just book as you go along.
I definitely think train travel is the most comfortable and convenient way of travelling cheaply around Vietnam (the buses can often break down or can be severely delayed if there's a storm).
Hope this helps!
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Hi Alexander,
As I know it is impossible to buy such as train-pass in Vietnam.
You should buy train ticket for each route: Ho Chi Minh City to Hanoi and then Hanoi to Beijing.
You can make stops along the way, visit some interesting places there and then buy new ticket. Be sure you know which station your train leaves from and arrive to.
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In Vietnam, the bus is better than train. You can easily make you stops from Hochiminh to Hanoi. Then you can take the train from Hanoi to nanning china. You can visit around by train in china.
It is not possible to buy a train pass or hop on hop off tickets. Buy a single ticket to each individual destination. Simple.
Train though it will take days so make sure you will make some adjustments beforehand. Check Seat61 website and book from there.